Solved Which Fatar keybed is in the S88 Mk2?

Does anyone know which model Fatar keybed is installed in the new S88 Mk2 controller? It's missing from all N.I. documentation (including the Manual) and marketing literature. As a classically trained pianist its important that I factor a keyboard's action into my choice of controller. As a general rule, manufacturers let this information be known. And most digital keyboard reviewers are conscientious enough to include it in their articles because so many people live in areas where no stores have these keyboards in stock. I am one of those people. It is tremendously helpful, therefore, knowing that Arturia installs the Fatar TP/100LR in their KeyLab 88 MkII whereas Dexibell installs the Fatar TP/40M in their Vivo S7. This tells me that the Vivo S7's keys are a medium touch, requiring 10 grams less pressure than the 40H but 10 grams more than the 40L. I also know that the KeyLab 88 MkII exhibits more consistent dynamic control across the keyboard due to the use of new polymers in its keybed. If I purchase the S88 it will be without ever having played it. Knowing the model of its Fatar keybed would help me make a decision I won't regret.

 

They wont disclose the model. Somebody would have to open one up to look. Its not the 40L like in many Kurzweils, and more likely the 100LR

 

Don't know, but it feels a bit heavier than other keyboards I've tried.
After playing it at home, the Yamaha CLP-675 and Roland PHA-IV at the office feel way too light.

Not sure if that helps or not.

 

I don't know what keybed it uses either but I own a Kawai CA78, and the S88 is much heavier, noisier, and nowhere near as nice to play. Still, I do find the benefits (mainly the lightguide) enough of a reason to keep using it, as I mainly use kontakt libraries with keyswitches etc.

 

TP/100, most likely, maybe with some slight modifications.

 

I opened my S88 due to problems (warranty already gone)

 

Thought so.

 

I've never played with that keybed,but have heard some negative reviews on it, how bad is it really?

 

IMO, it feels normal as far as weight, but it is awkward to play. Very unresponsive for playing repeated notes.

 

Prefer 40L but totally fine for basic composing and noodling. I am looking into swapping in a tp40wood with ivory touch.

 

My Kurzweil has the 40L. That would be great. I would love to hear how you make out with swapping!

 

Will be updating as i go with that

 

I have the Kurzweil Forte and love the action in mine, too bad NI doesn't consider putting a more high end keybed in their top of the line boards, I'd buy one if so.

 

Interested in this. Looking at the S61 MkII. It too has a Fartar keyboard. Is it probably the same model as the S88 MkII? I have a Kurzweil SP-76 stage piano with “weighted action” keys. Relative to a genuine acoustic piano key action, the SP-76 action feels essentially like stiff synth keys. Is that what I should expect from NI’s Fartar keyboards?

 

Um... just went to the NI keyboard page and the S61 Mk II is no longer on the products page? Neither is the S49 MkII. They were there just days ago. Only the S88 is now listed. Anybody know what’s up?

 

I own the MK2 61 key, and it's pretty terrible. It's definitely not a high end Fatar keybed.

 

Thanks for the info. It may be a moot point in my hunt for a new KB. According to the product page, it’s no longer available.
https://www.native-instruments.com/en/catalog/komplete/keyboards/

 

Maybe a new version coming soon..? Speculating only.

 

They’re listed again on product page.

 

No, S49/61 MK2 have different keyboard than S88 MK2.