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Discussion in 'AKOUSTIK PIANO' started by snyer, Dec 11, 2005.

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  1. Markus @ NI

    Markus @ NI New Member

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    Hi all,

    silent notes: I am checking with the designer on this.

    velocity: this is on my list already. we need to make sure that it does not get too complicated in terms of usability.

    timbre: do you mean that you want to change the velocity borders of say the 10 velocity layers in a ConcerntGrand patch?


    Best,
    Markus
     
  2. pagrant@bluefrog.com

    pagrant@bluefrog.com Forum Member

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    Overtone: Before you go into K2 with AP, wait for the update. Trust me. Phil
     
  3. overtone

    overtone NI Product Owner

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    Ok, Phil. I'm waiting for the update. Btw, do you have any good guess when it will be out?

    Best,

    Aria
     
  4. pno

    pno NI Product Owner

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    Hi!

    Please give us the the option of a musically neutral metronome, that uses clicks instead of beeps.
    I hate it when the metronome tries to join me playing.
    May I suggest sampling a mechanical metronome?
    That sound was good enough for Chopin, who kept a
    metronome on his piano all the time, and used it too.

    Thanks for a good product. I prefer the Steinway, but
    also practise a lot on the Steingraeber since it's uncannily
    like the upright we sometimes use at piano lessons.
     
  5. pagrant@bluefrog.com

    pagrant@bluefrog.com Forum Member

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    I haven't been given a date, but it should be VERY soon. I wiil post here regarding what I've done to address your concerns, when it's ready. But I can tell you, I now have a VERY fine piano, if not quite perfect. And I will continue to perfect it.
     
  6. Markus @ NI

    Markus @ NI New Member

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    Hi all,

    I just posted status regarding the update in Phil's original thread.

    as for the metronome sound, we love the idea. I already orginzed one of these wodden Maelzel Metronomes to have its sound recorded ;-)


    Best,
    Markus
     
  7. Birne

    Birne NI Product Owner

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    Hi Markus

    just wonder if there is a way to tell AP the amount of memory to use... I have 2GB installed but AP seems to use only 500M of it and keeps reloading the rest from disk. Which works fine, but the constant scratching is getting on my nerves.
    I can adjust the Steinberg Grand to preload 6 seconds, which is sufficient for most pieces I play to largely avoid the reloading. Is that possible with AP ?

    Cheers
    Martin
     
  8. Markus @ NI

    Markus @ NI New Member

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    Hi Martin,

    good point! I also learned from another DFD test that higher preload buffers will reduce issues quite a bit - especially on Macs.

    so here is what I did. I set the preload buffers for the default instruments to 192 kB instead of the 66 kB default setting.

    please make a backup copy of all NKI files in your AP library's Default folder first and then unpack the versions of the attached zip files into this folder.

    let us know if this improves things! if it does, we will use the new settings in the 1.1 update as the new default.


    Best,
    Markus
     

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  9. ohernie

    ohernie Forum Member

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    When the next version Kontakt comes out will we be able to do this type of editing ourselves?

    Ernie
     
  10. Birne

    Birne NI Product Owner

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    Markus

    thanks for the prompt response.

    It doesn't work however, instead I get a message "This patch was generated by a newer version of Kontakt - Please upgrade your copy"

    Well, I do not own a copy of Kontakt in the first place, just AP... hope I won't have the same problem with the forthcoming AP upgrade.


    Regards
    Martin
     
  11. Markus @ NI

    Markus @ NI New Member

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    Hi Ernie,

    yes, you will be able to do this yourself with Kontakt 2.1!



    Hi Martin,

    sorry, I must have confirmed my changes with an internal version of the AP update. let me do the fix again tomorrow with an older version of Kontakt that matches your AP version.


    Best,
    Markus
     
  12. Markus @ NI

    Markus @ NI New Member

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    Hi all,

    I recreated the piano presets and attached them to my origrinal mail below. please try them and let us know!


    Best,
    Markus
     
  13. Birne

    Birne NI Product Owner

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    Markus

    Thank you. Yes, it does work in principle, however the effect is hardly or not noticeable. The swapping remains virtually the same and continues even if I play the same simple tune of 5 staccato notes again and again.

    The amount of spare memory on my machine, as indicated by task manager, is (with Concert Grand D loaded):

    1,49 G before the patch
    1,35 G after the patch

    Appears to be 140MB difference. Probably not enough as to change disk swapping significantly. Just for comparison, Steinberg leaves me with 0.7 G when setting the preload time to 6 seconds.

    Best
    Martin
     
  14. Markus @ NI

    Markus @ NI New Member

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    Hi Martin,

    in that case I have to consult with the developers when I get a chance.

    preload buffer is not almost set to the max (192 kB out of 240 kb). AP already uses the max channel buffer size as well.

    now I tried something else - loaded all keys from C1 to B4 into RAM and only stream the rest. this should just fit into your remaining RAM ;-)


    Best,
    Markus
     

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  15. Birne

    Birne NI Product Owner

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    Markus

    That did the trick. I guess it is not a very practical solution, because it eats up most of the RAM and probably won't run on machines with less memory. And, you rarely need the whole sample lenght.

    I would appreciate if these settings were adjustable in a future version of AP, but don't want to overemphasize the topic. My major concern is to get the sound right.

    Which brings me to yet another issue: I think the equalizer adjustment is far too coarse and does not suit a solo piano. Moving the slider by ten pixels makes it sound like a bass guitar. Should be a little more decent.

    Cheers
    Martin
     
  16. Markus @ NI

    Markus @ NI New Member

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    Hi Martin,

    I have this on my list but it sounds like a deeper change so no promises for updates in the near future. I'd be happy to keep working with you on doable solutions in the meantime however like preloading every second note or so.

    did you try the EQ with shift+mouse?


    Best,
    Markus
     
  17. Birne

    Birne NI Product Owner

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    Markus

    Don't worry. As I said, the disk shuffling is a nuisance rather than a performance issue. And, probably, unnecessary stress for the disk, so I would like to avoid it if feasible. Since Steinberg can do it, I just thought this shouldn't be a big issue.

    As to the equalizer: Ok, I could have thought of using shift-mouse myself.... guess it is a standard module taken from Kontakt or whatever - still, the equalizer as well as some of the exaggerated and useless piano presets (enough said about the tuning) create the impression that the whole thing has been designed by someone with little knowledge and feeling for the instrument. Controls are good for fine tuning but to bend the sound to ridiculous extremes just feels kind of toyish to me. May be purely personal, though, if I need a synthesizer, I'll get me one. I would like AP to be a piano.

    Best
    Martin
     
  18. nana

    nana NI Product Owner

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    Hi Markus,

    I bought a new keyboard controller yesterday, played AP a lot since and loved to play it generally, but I thought about that key-dynamic-curve thing again...
    I guess most of us would go through the process of tweaking each controller-key's own dynamic behaviour (even if this could cost a whole day). I know these things are a nightmare for every GUI-designer, but for me it would be also acceptable if this would be done by a simple script file in text-format, like "key [tab] dynamic curve [tab] range [CR]"...
    But what I really would like to see, is a sort of a "black keys dynamic"-knob, that allows to reduce the responsiveness of the black keys a bit (which is natural on real instruments because of shorter 'mechanics').

    Do you think this could be implemented in future versions?

    Regards,
    Juergen
     
  19. snyer

    snyer NI Product Owner

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    Re: whishlist: any news about the update?

    Is there any news about the time the update should become available?
    Kind regards
    Luc
    BE
     
  20. ohernie

    ohernie Forum Member

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    Re: whishlist: any news about the update?

    Hey! Don't push it. The longer they take the more time I have to save up for a competitive product named after a material formerly used for the tops of piano keys. It looks like my "every day from Memorial Day to Labor Day" waterpark "make like a Key West musician in Illinois" gig is going to materialize again. If it does then by the time summer is out I will own all the latest generation piano softsynths and be able to give a definitive answer to gigging musicians asking which one to purchase.

    Our lives move on, with or without NI.

    Ernie
     
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