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Dieses Thema im Forum "Computer Technology and Setup" wurde erstellt von paul doolan, 31. August 2021.

  1. paul doolan

    paul doolan NI Product Owner

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    With Windows 11 now becoming available with a strict criteria to be able to install will there be a problem when using NA software. Only asking because of the horrors of Apple users with the new Apple software and hardware update.
    Thanks.
     
  2. chk071

    chk071 NI Product Owner

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    Do you mean the hardware requirements?

    I can't see how that would have an influence on running Native Access.
     
  3. paul doolan

    paul doolan NI Product Owner

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    Well apparently windows 11 can only be utilized fully by computers made about 3 or 4 years ago, any older then that will be incompatible due to hardware being outdated, just wondered if it will cause problems with NA software just like it did with Apple.
     
  4. Kubrak

    Kubrak NI Product Owner

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    Hard to say, but I guess, there should not be any problem, or any real problem.... Microsoft, unlike Apple, generally tries to maintain backward compatibility as much as possible. NI SW runs OK for sure since W7 up to W10. No real reason, it will not work on W11.
    But it may happen, that there may occure some king of minor glitches with W11.... But nothing like never ending horror of Apple platform.....
     
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  5. Simchris

    Simchris NI Product Owner

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  7. paul doolan

    paul doolan NI Product Owner

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    Well that answers that then thanks, so will hold up on installing it yet.
     
  8. chk071

    chk071 NI Product Owner

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    I would wait until Windows 11 is actually released. Companies will surely test their software for compatibility now, and will most likely be ready when Windows 11 is actually let loose on the public.

    There's no real hurdle I see though. Unlike with Apple's new CPU's.
     
  9. JesterMgee

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    macOS, like an apple, "goes off" very quickly but it's usually planned so you feel the latest machine is worth investing in. As mentioned, Windows is designed from day 1 to maintain compatibility and usually software is always fine, drivers between major versions can be a bit more challenging but even then it's usually still fine. I can still run 20+ year old programs without any issue at all.
     
  10. paul doolan

    paul doolan NI Product Owner

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    Its being available to download the official version next month, I would imagine that companies would have had the Beta version to check that it is compatible with their software that's why I questioned it in the first place.
     
  11. JesterMgee

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    Companies may test but often will not officially state if their software is compatible based on the Beta versions of an OS for the fact that things can often change up to and even after release which is often why you do not see official statements that software is compatible until after an OS has been out for a while.

    More often than not word will not come about compatibility until some test environments have been running for a few weeks after launch and any initial launch issues from Microsoft have been patched.

    Keep in mind that not everyone out there is a home producer, some are big corporations that can loose a huge sum of income if they are told things work ahead of time and then use that as a basis to upgrade everything in their suite only to find that it doesn't work after official launch and then having to wait months for a fix.
     
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  12. chk071

    chk071 NI Product Owner

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    I don't think it's a good idea to adopt your professional environment on day 1 to a new OS either.

    Most people won't get Windows 11 on day 1 anyway, because the rollout will last for months, as usual. IF you want to upgrade.
     
  13. JesterMgee

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    Yes rare that companies will just jump in and upgrade, anyone that uses Apple products knows you always stay 1 release behind if you want reliable and trouble free operation, but there are some companies that may be doing system upgrades and when it comes time to order machines they may already be pre-loaded with Win11 for instance or maybe for some other reason they want/need to update ASAP so if the green light is given that "yes we tested 6 months ago on the beta and it was all fine" then this could be an issue. Unlikely scenario but one that does happen and companies can be held to account if millions in revenue are affected because of wrong advice. This is why companies play it safe, better to wait 2 months after launch to know it is compatible on a wider scale than to state before hand.

    Little known fact is many companies don't even do much of this testing at all other than install, launch and use for 5 minutes until an OS is officially out the gate, some drivers might get stress tested a bit but users are the Beta testers these days so they wait for a wide userbase to just do it themselves then for the support queries to come in to see what needs fixing. Much easier to let the general impatient users out there dive in and find all the issues for you, that costs nothing.
     
  14. Kubrak

    Kubrak NI Product Owner

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    Yes, no need to hurry jump into Win11. I still use Win7. :-DDD And also WinXT... But soon will jump to Win10, my future HW will not be able run Win7.

    And, regarding compatibility. Althought Guitar Rig 6 and Super 8 are not offitially suported for Win7, it runs on it just fine. But I would not recomend using Win7 or older, as they do not have support by Microsoft (for broad public).
     
  15. Yugato

    Yugato New Member

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    i think it can be avaliable with windows 11
     
  16. Simchris

    Simchris NI Product Owner

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    Smart people will also clone their windows boot drive, drop in the clone then upgrade that to see what blows up.
     
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  17. DeepThumb

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    And smarter and professional people (= who's income depends on it) have at least two different systems: A production system that is never connected to internet / LAN and a test / integration system on which they test everything for some month until it's clear that these changes can be safely transferred to the production system.
     
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  18. Kubrak

    Kubrak NI Product Owner

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    So, no NI SW products? ;-)
     
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  19. DeepThumb

    DeepThumb NI Product Owner

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    I'm quite sure that there is a licencing solution to authorize NI and other SW products on professional production systems. The company I'm working for has total control over any update - even OS updates - or new SW on our systems. I don't have to register or authorize anything.
     
  20. Kubrak

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    Probably yes. They may have bulk licences and some sort of universal activation keys. (Like Microsoft used to have for their certain licencing schemes like MSDN and probably still has for big users.)

    But what about the rest of the world? They have to connect to internet at least for a minute or so, to get authorised the NI SW. No big deal or risk IMHO, but some people mind it.