Windows 7 64-bit

I'm strongly considering purchasing the new Komplete along with the 64-bit version of Windows 7 when it comes out. On the Guitar Center website theres a note at the bottom that says "REAKTOR 5 is currently not running on 64-bit operating systems".

Can anyone fill me in on the status of this, and what this will mean to me effectively. Will I not be able to use Reaktor at all? If so, how far along is the 64-bit version in development? What are my options otherwise? Thanks.

 

It's not 64 bit optimised code, but I'm running Reaktor 5 on Windows 7 64 bit without a problem. It runs in 32-bit mode automatically.

 

it probably doesn't work in a 64-bit host though. am I wrong here? But, I dont think there are too many 64-bit host options besides Sonar on Win7.

 

Thanks dsic, that's what I wanted to know. I mostly use Ableton Live.

kid_sputnik : Reaper works on Win 7 and is 64-bit.

 

Yes, it works fine with Ableton Live (I use 8) as a VST... never used a native 64 bit host so couldn't confirm on that front, i would be highly surprised if a 64-bit host couldn't run 32-bit VST's though - what would be the point?

 

I could be wrong, but I thought this was not possible. Running a 32-bit host on a 64-bit machine should be fine.

On Windows Vista 64 (and Windows 7 most likely), 32-bit apps run under something called Wow64, which is a 32-bit emulation layer of the OS that does all of the low level stuff needed for 32-bit binaries to run on a 64-bit machine. A plug-in does not run as a separate process usually, but rather runs in the hosts process (try opening Reaktor under a host and looking in task manager, then standalone, to see what I mean). That means you cant really use WoW64 since the process itself is 64-bit.

If any 64-bit hosts can load 32-bit binaries (DLLs) and know how to run them while running at 64-bit, that is very cool, but I would be surprised if any do.

I think the point of 64-bit hosts is, eventually we should see 64-bit taking over on the software end (as it is now on for PC hardware), and we will eventualls see most apps and plugins running as native 64-bit apps. When that is, who knows?

Someone please correct me if I am wrong here.

 

I wonder how windows 7 will be as a daw.:S

 

64 bit hosts use a bit bridge to run 32 bit plugins. A good example of a bit bridge(and one that works better than the 64 bit hosts' own in most situations) is jBridge:

http://jstuff.wordpress.com/jbridge/

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Reactor 5 running in Cubase 5 64 bit works very well here.

Gerard

 

ahh, thanks for the info. that is very cool. have you used this yourself? im curious how performance is for some of the hungrier plugins out there, like Massive or Reaktor with a beefy ensemble like 2OSC.

 

W7 64 bit runs perfectly and provides a brilliant OS for a DAW.

See the latency screen shot below and I've not done any serious customisation of the OS to achieve this. This is as is out of the box. Far, far better than Vista ever was.

I'm still running Cubase at 32 bit still too much hassle going totally 64 bit on software right now...