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Wishlist for B4 III

Dieses Thema im Forum "B4 & B4 II" wurde erstellt von JanPeters, 27. Dezember 2008.

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  1. Umudo

    Umudo Forum Member

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    I have to try the Line 6 Roto-Machine for the overdrive, though the Leslie is awesome in B4 II.

    Well, as someone mentioned here, sometimes upper notes are louder than lower ones.

    Drive and this are my only concerns atm.
     
  2. JamesThornton

    JamesThornton NI Product Owner

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    1.) 64-bit version
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    3.) 64-bit version

    You get the idea
     
  3. stuka

    stuka Forum Member

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    mdf25, do you have a web address for that sale? I Googled "digital village music" and went to dv247.com as the hit that made the most sense, but B4II lists at 129 Pounds there. Is it another "digital village" you are talking about?
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    Nevermind, I think I found it:



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    ....but i only found it on a cached page on Google (search: "digital village B4"), so it looks like that sale may be over. Would be worth the call to see, though, I would think, though I couldn't get it at this time.'


    Their # is 0845 0777 247
     
  4. stuka

    stuka Forum Member

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    I wanted to point something out for those who come to B4 without having played a real Hammond console organ, so please bear with me if this is old news.

    With respect to the tone balance issue: because of the foldback of the tones in the upper register, the upper octave on a real Hammond console (A/B/C/ -2, -3) can really scream/screech. Part of what some of us might be perceiving as a tonal imbalance from bass to treble might be due to this phenomenon. I only say part, because even though I can balance out the controls on B4 to get identical drawbar settings on B4 to sound close enough to my C-2G in the mids and treble section, I haven't been able to get the low-end I want out of the left-hand side.

    If you haven't been aware of the top-octave scream thing, the following might help to dial in as close to, at least, what Ive been able to get out of it, in B4I, by the way.

    I tend to use the registration 888746000 a lot, with no V/C or perc and a nice slow rotor. In the B4 (original) Control view, I roll back keyclick and drive all the way and/or turn the Drive off (I don't care much for either, YMMV...), set all the rotor controls straight up, and then roll back the horn (Treble Rotor) Tone "pot" to about 10 o'clock. The Bass rotor pot I adjust to taste, usually about 8-9 o'clock. I turn the "Body" control in the Tube Amp section all the way up, and I have fiddled with the "Bright" control, but it doesn't seem to do anything, so I leave it alone.

    With my tiny little mixer (a very simple/basic Phonic MM1002), I run the NIB4 output (straight out of the on-board soundcard of this little ol' 366 mHz IBM Stinkpad, using Win95 and ASIO4All) into channels 1 & 2, which have 2 tone controls. The treble I leave straight up, and I crank the bass pots on the inputs all the way up and leave the low roll-off switches Off.

    My mixer out I send into the RCA jacks in (bypassing the "speaker simulation" of a Crate Power Block stereo micro-amp (4 lbs, 175W/channel), and into a pair of Peavey 12" PA speakers. at the moment I have my C2-G signal tapped (using a pot to bleed the signal down) into a Line6 Tone Core Roto-machine (Leslie Sim) stereo stomp box, then into another pair of inputs on the MM 1002 and out through the same amp and speakers, and playing the two side-by-side with B4 configured as outlined above, there is only a small amount of low-end weakness in NIB4, and the tonality is otherwise dead-on.

    There is still a noticeable raise in perceived volume in the upper octave, but it's exactly the same as on the real Hammond, due to the effect of foldback.

    So, the point of all this is that although I think there is an issue with low-end weakness in NIB4 -- hence my tweaking everything bass up as much as I could in the signal chain -- the problem seems to not lie necessarily so much in the top-end, but rather in the low end. I wonder if adding a general bass-boost "circuitry" feature, or perhaps a set of hi/low or hi/mid/low tone controls at the back end of the signal chain might take care of things and bring out that nice Hammond low-end punch.
     
  5. pbryant

    pbryant New Member

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    See item 140341020866 on ebay right now, from Music-Matter.

    Full retail boxed B4-II at £69 including VAT and postage.

    I bought one yesterday afternoon - arrived here this morning. It says there are another four left right now....and no, I don't work for them :)

    ...but all the evidence seems to indicate that somebody is dumping old stock, ready for something new.
     
  6. stuka

    stuka Forum Member

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    Thx for the tip :)
     
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