******* I know this is a seriously long thread but if you really care about traktor and its viable future as a respected platform in the dj'ing industry please take the time to read all of it and add your reflections. and if you agree with any of my opinions around areas in traktor that need improvement even if they dont directly effect your use of the program please take a moment to send in an improvement request to Native Instruments. its your voice that can effect change in this program. thanks ******** I was thinking about traktor while I was working today and basically I’ve come up with some sad realization of truths surrounding traktor. I know this is going to sound arrogant as hell so I must first say I in no way consider myself to be a master of dj'ing, but I have been doing it for almost 10 years. I played vinyl for around 5 years, cds for 3 or 4 years and now I have been using traktor for the last year and a half. I consider myself a supreme music geek and constantly try to improve my ability to mix music in more and more advanced ways. I only started using traktor when I felt a suitable option became available where I could keep using the skills I had developed from my previous experience and translate them some what seamlessly into the world of laptop dj'ing. I wanted to take advantage of traktors ability to intelligently sort and organize my music, Use the many different looping and beat jumping features, and ultimately take full advantage of accurately changing the key of my tracks as dealing with harmonic mixing on vinyl and cd was a massively time consuming art. The arrival of the vci 100 was what finally sold me to give traktor a try because I would have tactile control over the software features of traktor. I had already decided to use traktor over serato solely for the ability to change the keys of my tracks. Before I had the vci 100 I used 2.5 for about a half year using a contour control midi controller, it had a little jog wheel that worked well enough, and lots of buttons where I programmed features like fine, coarse tempo adjustment, key change up and down, play pause etc. It worked so unbelievably sweet, my tracks key’s were displayed in the deck headers, I would press a button and the display would show me what key it had been changed into. It was so nice…. simple and beautiful. I spent 3 or 4 months entering my music collection, detailing all my tracks, entering key data etc. Then version 3 came out. After reading all the new cool features I didn’t think twice. I bought version 3 and then proceeded to make the biggest mistake I could ever make. I rolled my music collection into version 3 and somehow managed not to save my old 2.5 data…. Essentially there was no turning back. Version 3 very quickly made some really poor impressions on me. The key data system did not work at all, you couldn’t get the key to display in the deck header and there was no longer any display that would show you what key you were currently in….. WTF? This was traktors BEST feature, the one amazing feature that traktor could do that no other software could do. And now its totally broken. I immediately hit the forums, submitted improvement requests, and reported it as a bug. Don’t worry, it will get fixed in the next update I kept hearing….. how many updates have now gone past? Has it been fixed? Nope. Then I noticed the tempo resolution no longer went down to .01 WTF? Are we going backwards I thought to myself. And ever since its been little disappointment after disappointment, my ability to skillfully use traktor to its maximum potential has been sadly reduced since version 3 has come out. If I didn’t have to spend 3 months straight redoing my music collection back into 2.5 I would be using 2.5 right now as we speak. .Now after using traktor 3 for around a year I feel familiar enough with the overall usability of it to come to these conclusions. 1. traktor was conceived to help people that didn’t know how to dj mix their music 2. because of this traktor has never really taken important features that professionals would be looking for very seriously. 3. traktor has in some part created a large community of dj's that have never properly learned how to dj. And due to this fact, feedback that NI gets from the majority of users is such that not enough attention gets put into making the essential basics of the program work flawlessly because the majority of traktor users don’t have the foundational experience to know that there are short falls to many of the softwares basic features…. Instead demanding crazy new features that take massive amounts of programming time and energy…. Leaving basic essential functions working poorly or not even at all. Please take these statements with a grain of salt. I know there are many talented dj's on this forum and out in the world that use traktor very skillfully. but the fact is traktor has inexpensively opened up the door to a huge amount of people who casually thought dj'ing would be fun and decided to give it a try because they already owned a laptop and a couple hundred bucks would get them started so they could play all their downloaded mp3's. Many of these people probably would not have dropped the 800 bucks a piece for a couple tech 12's and 500 bucks on a decent mixer. Then spend countless thousands on 2 tracks of music on a 20 dollar piece of vinyl…. So now you’ve got this army of "dj's" with their traktor programs. They never learned how to beatmatch properly because they don’t have to. They have things like auto level so they don’t have to manually match the track volumes.... I’m surprised traktor hasn’t yet developed an auto eq’ing feature.... I bet that’s coming in version 4 And on and on….. Now this army of mediocre djs starts giving feedback to NI about the features they do or don’t like and because of the huge numbers of them NI naturally thinks that this is the "word of the people" and start removing this and changing that, ignore that this is broken but keep adding more and more features eventually creating this bloated cpu hog of a program that does tons of cool things…. but succeeds in not doing many of them very well…. not to the level of what would be expected by professionals. Why? Because NI does not take the requests of the professionals seriously because the bulk of traktor users are people who are casual dj’s at best, people who never learned the fundamentals and science of mixing developed using hardware because traktor takes care of most of it (poorly) for you. Leaving a small percentage of the users really trying to get the most out of this software struggling because in so many ways it never lives up to their expectations. This is why the real key features in traktor that the pro's would look for are either broken, been reduced in there usability or have disappeared all together. a working track key display feature.... used to work in 2.5, hasn’t worked yet in all the traktor 3 versions.... trim adjustment to 2 decimal places, traktors tempo accuracy when done manually is barely better than a cdj100 that was designed 8 years ago. do you think someone like digweed would take the time to beatgrid all his tracks.... nope, not when he can already masterfully beatmatch them in a few seconds. But he wouldn’t be able to because traktor no longer has accurate enough tempo control resolution. Multiband kills.... used to have them back in version 2.... now we don’t.... the emulation of the zone’s eq's have been poorly done, and there is no low freq kill…. And on and on.