I think there is a very relevant sweet spot here-- "For all my efforts to customise T3.2 to my requirements, its still does not feel as 'natural' to me as T.2.5. I'm only sticking with T3.2 because of the hassle of redoing my collection back to T2.5." Its inception and occurance is due to so many factors and un-repeatable(and un-editable) variables. These have brought about a level of function that has a very dedicated usership and also a stable hardware base that supports it. Asking this user ship to change its ways as well as asking technologey to be "in the right place" to make the software function as well as it does right there in the sweet spot: Requires everyone to "come around again" when the timing is right. It is quite possible that a user will never feel as intutative with a piece of software and method as they did when they first learned it. Its kind of like being in love. The users ability to adapt to limitations and FACE the challenges of different way of doing things is the only real SKILL that they can rely on. This is a very relevant idealism and one that follows you from your birth till your death as a human being as well. I will soon be in possession of an fs2 system to work wtih, and I would also like to gain versions of all the stages of this software's development as well as the optimal hardware profiles from those time periods, so that I may gauge it and have a real understanding of its core ideal. Also -- so that I may be creative and realistic in my thoughts and practices of the future. ------------------------------------------------------------ @boy steve -- subdueing your practices by quarantining yourself away from the rest of the user ship is creating a bad relationship between your ideas and the actual direction of the platform. -- and this is getting destructive -- it is evident in your posts and your treatment of others. You have now thrice insulted my intelligence, and my core spirit and subsequently the metaphors and manifestations of my DJ and his/her connections to the world. Last night I found myself rewinding and editing hundreds of times until I had what I thought was a very summing, poignant, and powerful statement about what I think of you and your ways. BUT. It now no longer stands because i cannot look at the ugliness that i have created and projected at you. I see that thing that is now gone only as a stupid manifestation of my quick and sharp and poorly motivated feelings. I am not good at being combative, as it injures me and those around me deeply. Also I cannot allow myself to be put into such a state by your words in this simple neutral ground. I have to be 'a pussy' for you...One that you can do this to and get a smile back from. And so be it. You will always win, and I will always just be hurt a little rather than raised to a reactional and destructive state. Not to worry (~8~) I am accustomed to this in a cruel dumb world, where the people like you are numerous . and consequently .where.. YOU ARE NoT SPECIAL. Good luck with that. ------------------------------------------ for the rest of the thread and the rest of the users who interact with me .-- I hope that I may communicate my ideas in an objective and reasonable tone and language(hopefulley not too confusing ) that does indeed improve things on a functional level.