EKS XP5/XP10 tsi

Discussion in 'DJ Controllers' started by lourma, Nov 27, 2008.

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  1. lourma

    lourma Forum Member

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    Posting a TSI file as promised.

    This is my 2 deck Loop and fx setup
    It is a work in progress, but now it works ok for me.
    Need to do more in terms of browsing, any ideas?

    Setup in Traktor
    2 deck setup
    Chained fx in both FX1 and FX2

    CONTROLSCHEMA
    Eject - loads highligted track
    Playlist + wheel - scrolls throu playlist
    Cue - cue
    Play - Play
    Pitch Control - Pitch
    CD/DJ Jog - wheel
    Scratch On - touche wheel
    Scratch - wheel
    OK - sync
    A - FX1 toggle on/off
    B - FX2 toggle on/off
    C - not used yet
    Right arrow - not used yet
    Left arrow - not used yet

    FX CONTROL
    (deck 1 controls FX1 and deck 2 controls FX2)
    D + wheel - dry/wet fx
    Play Mode + wheel - Effect 1 Amount
    Play Mode + menu - Effect 1 on/off
    Play Mode + arrow up - Effect 1 Select Previous
    Play Mode + arrow down - Effect 1 Select Next

    Pitch Mode + wheel - Effect 2 Amount
    Pitch Mode + wheel - Effect 2 on/off
    Pitch Mode + arrow up - Effect 2 Select Previous
    Pitch Mode + arrow up - Effect 2 Select Next

    Pitch Range + wheel - Effect 3 Amount
    Pitch Range + wheel - Effect 3 on/off
    Pitch Range + arrow up - Effect 3 Select Previous
    Pitch Range + arrow up - Effect 3 Select Next

    LOOPSECTON
    IN - LoopLengt previous
    OUT- LoopLengt next
    RELOOP - Loop in/out + sync on out
    Reverse - LoopMove back (steps due to MOVE settings)
    BREAK - LoopMove forward (steps due to MOVE settings)

    Please feel free to modify it in any way you want, but post your adjustments and comments here!
     

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  2. shung

    shung Forum Member

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    well done man. your file is very useful for me.
    would you please add the filter function?
    thanks.
     
  3. dabassronald

    dabassronald New Member

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    Thanksthanksthanksthanks!
     
  4. lourma

    lourma Forum Member

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    Curently working on improvments.
    News:
    C + Wheel - Filter
    C + "wheeltap" - filter Reset

    D +Wheel - Key
    D + "wheeltap" - Key Reset

    MENU + wheel - dry/wet fx
    Play Mode + wheel - Effect 1 Amount
    Play Mode + wheeltap - Effect 1 on/off
    Play Mode + arrow up - Effect 1 Select Previous
    Play Mode + arrow down - Effect 1 Select Next
    ... and same concept for each other effect

    + I want to separate each player more
    If you for examle push Play mode on Player 1, now you can adjust Effect 1 Amout on player 2... Not good, for me

    Try to post a new tsi later today.

    Please feel free to come with suggestions and requests!
     
  5. lourma

    lourma Forum Member

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    Version 1.1
    Major fixes
    Filter included (C + wheel)
    Key included (D + wheel)
    Using tap on wheel for fx on/off

    - - -
    2 deck Loop and fx setup

    Setup in Traktor
    2 deck setup
    Chained fx in both FX1 and FX2

    CONTROLSCHEMA
    Eject - loads highligted track
    Playlist + wheel - scrolls throu playlist
    Cue - cue
    Play - Play
    Pitch Control - Pitch
    CD/DJ Jog - wheel
    Scratch On - touch wheel
    Scratch - wheel (when touched)
    OK - sync
    A - FX1 toggle on/off
    B - FX2 toggle on/off
    C + Wheel - Filter
    C + Wheeltap - Filter Reset
    D + Wheel - Key
    D + Wheeltap - Key Reset


    FX
    (deck 1 controls FX1 and deck 2 controls FX2)
    MENU + wheel - dry/wet fx
    Play Mode + wheel - Effect 1 Amount
    Play Mode + wheeltap - Effect 1 on/off
    Play Mode + arrow up - Effect 1 Select Previous
    Play Mode + arrow down - Effect 1 Select Next

    Pitch Mode + wheel - Effect 2 Amount
    Pitch Mode + wheeltap - Effect 2 on/off
    Pitch Mode + arrow up - Effect 2 Select Previous
    Pitch Mode + arrow down - Effect 2 Select Next

    Pitch Range + wheel - Effect 3 Amount
    Pitch Range + wheeltap - Effect 3 on/off
    Pitch Range + arrow up - Effect 3 Select Previous
    Pitch Range + arrow down - Effect 3 Select Next

    LOOP AND BEATJUMP
    IN - LoopLengt previous
    OUT- LoopLengt next
    RELOOP - Loop in/out + sync on out
    Reverse - LoopMove back (steps due to move size)
    BREAK - LoopMove forward (steps due to move size)
    Right arrow - Loop move size increase
    Left arrow - Loop move size decrease
    UP arrow - Beatjump (move mode)
    Down arrow - Loop (move mode)
    - - -

    Please comment, request or post adjustments for this tsi.
    If you have another eks XP5/XP10 tsi file feel free to post it here!
     

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  6. shung

    shung Forum Member

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    Thanks for your new version man.
    IMO, the FX on/off buttons are in commond use, so, may be AB buttons are too small for this.
    i changed smg for personal use, hope you don't mind.
    Reverse - FX1 on/off
    BREAK - FX2 on/off
    A - only browse Troggle
    B - beat tap
     
  7. flyboy

    flyboy NI Product Owner

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    thanks very much
    now i can use pro instead of 3.3.
    i found it very hard to midi map my ep10s.
    away to have some fun now!
     
  8. Mauro Alpha

    Mauro Alpha Moderatore Moderator

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    Ciao mate,

    can you explain me how to control the deck B with only one eks xp5 ?
     
  9. Mauro Alpha

    Mauro Alpha Moderatore Moderator

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    I solved my problem..I made the tempo preset and cd jog wheel as focus assignement..So when I move the focus channel I own my wanted channel

    :)
     
  10. andyfoz

    andyfoz NI Product Owner

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  11. andyfoz

    andyfoz NI Product Owner

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    ok i gave it ago,

    but why in your tsi and the bundled tsi for the xp10, the jog wheel is not touch sensitive?

    in traktor 3 i used the outside of the wheel to bend and the centre part to scan through tracks just like the pioneer cdj1000/800?

    is this function not traktor pro friendly?

    also are you using the new drivers from eks or the older version?
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    ok i gave it ago,

    but why in your tsi and the bundled tsi for the xp10, the jog wheel is not touch sensitive?

    in traktor 3 i used the outside of the wheel to bend and the centre part to scan through tracks just like the pioneer cdj1000/800?

    is this function not traktor pro friendly?

    also are you using the new drivers from eks or the older version?
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    ok i just gave up trying to get the jog wheel to work as it did in traktor 3.3 ie like the cdj1000.

    in the original drive package the one with a black symbol on the task bar the jog wheels worked right out of the box.

    im pretty pssst off with this system of midi, i bought the xp10 specifically for the touch sensitive wheels, guess i ll go back to 3.3.
     
  12. lourma

    lourma Forum Member

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    Well I have not used my XP5 with Traktor 3.3, only Traktor Pro...
    But it would be easy to modify the tsi to work as you like.
    Touch sensitivity in wheel is used to turn on Scratch, so just use it for something else.

    Have not tried the new driver and will not do until after the weekend...
     
  13. Mauro Alpha

    Mauro Alpha Moderatore Moderator

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    Andyfoz :

    touch sensitive works into ts pro !
    you have to go in the midi setup and and have the 2 command line

    "SCRATCH ON" and learn it touching the wheel
    and then have the other

    Scratch - wheel (when touched)

    I don't remeber if I have modified the parameters (rotary acceleration) or if I left it as it's from default.
     
  14. andyfoz

    andyfoz NI Product Owner

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    i sorted the scratch now by copying the same parameters from 3.3

    now im having trouble with the outer wheel for pitch bending? i will persevere, anyone else mastered it?
     
  15. lourma

    lourma Forum Member

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    In the tsi I have the wheel set as CD/DJ Jog.
    Works like this for me:
    When in Pause - scan track
    When in Play - pitch bend

    In MIDI setup:
    Maybe you must check the Type of controller and adjust rotary encoder settings. (Maybe this has be changed in the new EKS driver? Worth a try to play around here...)

    About pitch bending... Since I'm now mostly using the fantastic feature :) Sync i hardly need to bend. But the problem is when Traktor Pro have made a "not so good" job when AutoGrid I would like to adjust the beatgrid "on the fly" so to say... I have not figured that out yet. Any ideas?
     
  16. andyfoz

    andyfoz NI Product Owner

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    in 3.3 ijust used to use the left right arrows 1 touch at a time then press sync after each movement, the grid is auto saved and the track was sorted in seconds on the fly, probably the same in pro.

    also as traktors auto bpm read is crappy i used mixmeister to get true bpm reads then typed them ino traktor, its a far superior bpm analysis and sets your grid bang on most of the time and shows that traktor almost always gets it wrong by0.5 - 5bpm

    i am getting to grips with your tsi and the wheel, another problem i was having was performing a spin back while playing the audio would cut out or sound unatural, i just change key lock to +-30% in settings.

    now the wheel is working almost as good as in t3.3.

    also i just go an email from eks saying theres an update for the wheel on there website so im gona check it and report back
     
  17. Mauro Alpha

    Mauro Alpha Moderatore Moderator

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    andy I can't reply u in Pm cause I don't have 20 messages posted in the forum..so this is my answer :)

    the pitch bending is this parameter

    cd dj jog
    with interaction mode = direct
    type of controller= jog 3fh;41h

    and I've putted rotary sensivity to 50 %

    please note that you have to move the wheel from the outer side when you push learn..my channel is CC96

    hope u will be ok now
    tell me :)
     
  18. andyfoz

    andyfoz NI Product Owner

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    Mauro Alpha: sorted it now with a few tweaks to my liking

    and the new driver claiming to ix the jog wheel problem does not as far as i can see.

    eks need to contact NI to add the functionality found in t3.3.
     
  19. Mauro Alpha

    Mauro Alpha Moderatore Moderator

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    it's really strange man...for me work..
    or maybe you need other function that I don't use.
     
  20. andyfoz

    andyfoz NI Product Owner

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    i have completed my tsi and will post it soon as i tested it properly.
     
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