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Maschine mk3 with protools

Discussion in 'MASCHINE Area' started by Jakebake, Nov 9, 2019.

  1. Jakebake

    Jakebake NI Product Owner

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    Hey guys! So I just got the Maschine mk3 with komplete 12 pack and it's awesome! Big learning curve as I havent used anything like this before. I'm primarily a guitar player.

    What is the best way to use the mk3 and maschine 2 inside of protools? I also have addictive drums 2 that I like to use for drums. I know I can play stuff into maschine and then send it out as a wav file or make separate tracks but is there a way to get the midi into protools if I want to edit it later through there or if I sent it to someone who doesn't have maschine? Can I sync tempo and the count in with protools so pressing play will start both?

    I also had a mikro and took it back for th4 mk3 and I was able to see addictive drums 2 inside of maschine 2 but now it's not there?

    Lastly, if I was to take the mk3 to a band members house can I download all programs onto their computer and use it there if I am signed into my account?

    I basically am just trying to figure out the best workflow with the mk3 and protools. For the music I write I will always have guitar, bass, drums etc and the maschine will be more for added sounds like keys, strings, bass lines etc
     
  2. telecode101

    telecode101 NI Product Owner

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    The mk3 has no sounds in it. If you take to band members house you need to log into NI software center with your account to download the software and expansions. Aka you are giving the band member your NI account. Not good.
     
  3. Jakebake

    Jakebake NI Product Owner

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    Well it's also my friend of many years so it's not a big deal lol. Just wondering if it's possible. Can native access only be logged in once place at a time though? I mean seems like a legitimate use case for something portable like this and using it in a band situation.

    Anyone on the protools situation?

    Also I was wondering if I change the pad location of the different drums in a drum kit can I save this so all drum kits load like that?
     
  4. D-One

    D-One Well-Known Member

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    Cant help you with pro tools.
    On using your friend's computer thing: just be aware... There's a limit on how many computers your account can be active (2 or 3, not sure) and sharing accounts is not technically allowed, I would tell him not to use the products when you're not together to avoid problems. Up to you.
     
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  5. Vladimir_MK3

    Vladimir_MK3 New Member

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    Are you saying that in six years, on my new 4(th) computer (people buy new computers), I will not be able to log into my account and use what I paid for? Why, then, should I buy a product, the rights to which may be revoked? Can you confirm or deny this?
     
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  6. olafmol

    olafmol NI Product Owner

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    Of course you can. Just install native access, log in and get going.
     
  7. ShelLuser

    ShelLuser NI Product Owner

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    It's a non-issue. First keep the date of the thread you're responding to in mind: 2019, so it's 2 years old. Things change over time.

    Another, more important, aspect is the context of the posts above: it was about sharing your NI account with several others in order to allow them to install your software onto their computers as well. That can become an issue over time. There is absolutely no problem with installing your software onto several computers which you own (for example I have Maschine on both my main PC as well as my laptop). Nor is a computer replacement any problem.
     
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  8. Vladimir_MK3

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    I also hope that there will be no problems. After all, if you are fighting piracy and timeshare, you must consider the implications for regular users. I'm just asking questions.
     
  9. Rabbitfrog

    Rabbitfrog NI Product Owner

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    I think you are confusing information. You are talking about buying computers in the future, but this is in regards to present. It's a common practice that many companies use. Companies limit the number of computers/devices that can use the software at a present moment. Apple, Sony, Microsoft, they all do it. If you buy new computers in the future that's a different thing.
     
  10. Vladimir_MK3

    Vladimir_MK3 New Member

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    I have a fear that one day, having bought a new computer, I will face the problem of logging into my account. NI, using anti-piracy algorithms, maybe will restrict honest users. When I buy something, I want to know for sure that it belongs to me, and I cannot be denied access to my purchase.

    P.S. Please note - these were questions, not information. -----> "Are you saying that in six years, on my new 4(th) computer (people buy new computers), I will not be able to log into my account and use what I paid for? Why, then, should I buy a product, the rights to which may be revoked? Can you confirm or deny this?"
     
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  11. olafmol

    olafmol NI Product Owner

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    I’m totally confused. What’s the current question again? How many concurrent installations of Maschine software are allowed?
     
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  12. Rabbitfrog

    Rabbitfrog NI Product Owner

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    You are creating a completely fictional scenario. Just think about it, you are saying that NI would somehow restrict access to the stuff you paid for... I am really not sure where you are going with this. At first the question started with you buying computers in the future and I corrected you because the active account implies present moment use. Theoretically speaking you are only one person and can't log in to more then one computer at a time, so having the ability to do on 2 or 3 is already enough leeway. Many companies limit use to just one device at a time. Even Netflix has a plan where you can only watch it on one device at a time even if you have Netflix installed on 20 devices (phones, computers, tablets, etc) only one of them will play movies at a time. So that's in regards to that.

    But that's one thing. Now the next thing is you are afraid that the purchase you made will somehow become inactive. I have been buying digital stuff since the early 2000s and I never heard of such a thing. An honest purchase with an active account always worked for me. In fact you can look at my account creation date, it was made 8 years ago when I first used Maschine MK1. I then sold it. In fact I completely left NI and now came back for MK3. I purchased digital synths before Native Access even existed, I used Service Center which came on a CD-ROM back in 2012. So I was able to log in to my NI account, restore my account which has been inactive for 8 years, install Native Access and download FM8 which I purchased 8 years ago with no problem...

    Aside from this I don't know what else to say. I mean you can create any scenario and assume the worst and always have things to be concerned with. Even hardware breaks and electronic components become obsolete so there is no guarantee in anything these days. But then again we said the same things back in early 2000s...

    EDIT: Actually...I decided to test your fears (right now). My first ever music making software was Fruity Loops. I bought it first on windows, before I tried a Mac. Before the very first iPhone. So we are talking 2005 (!!!). I have never used it or touched since. I decided to see what will happen. I mean the software is not called Fruity Loops anymore... So I went to their site, tried to log in. Had to retrieve the password on an email I no longer use... Ok, success. I logged in to the website of a company, the software of which I bought at least 15 years ago (!!!). Wow, so turns out I still have a license. Ok so I download the software, entered my email and ...oh wow, it actually unlocked and I now have FL Studio Express installed. Ok, I have to admit, that's pretty amazing. This is actually a lot faster and simpler and with less problems then trying to access my old iTunes albums I bought, which didn't show up in my purchases at all after many years and required me to contact and schedule a support call (but I still was able to access them).

    Well this was an interesting experience. I don't know what will I do with FL Studio Express now...But here it is after 15 years :D

    Keep your fears in check , people :cool:
     
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  13. Vladimir_MK3

    Vladimir_MK3 New Member

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    No. The question is simple: how does the algorithm determine that I have stopped using my old computer and started using a new one? Is the system adaptive or does it only remember the device ID, and their accumulation causes problems over time?
     
  14. Rabbitfrog

    Rabbitfrog NI Product Owner

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    With all due respect your questions are anything but simple

    ^Here you are asking about 4 computers...

    And here^ you are worried that NI will lock you out of your honest purchase. for what reason again? Too many computers?

    ^And now it's just one computer?

    So it's not a "simple question" ;)

    It seems you are just giving probable scenarios and "what if" questions without having an actual problem. I went through the trouble of mitigating your "fears" and even installed and activated my 15 year-old DAW from a much smaller company just to make an example... And it seems it was just a waste of time. Oh well, no good deed goes unpunished.
     
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  15. D-One

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    Technically the EULA says only 2 computers are allowed:
    https://support.native-instruments....ative-Instruments-Products-on-a-New-Computer-
    In the decade or so that I've been here paying attention, I've only seen Traktor users occasionally have issues and it's something easily resolved with tech support.

    I can't tell you for sure but I have a high suspicion it only checks for too many installs if all are logged in at the same time, or maybe if they all come from different IP's. I also share the opinion of other users saying to not worrying about problems that arent really happening...

    I got a laptop and a desktop, the desktop has both windows and macOS so it counts as 2 computers, that's a total of 3 and I never had any issues, I also fully format my desktop every year (or couple of years), the way I do it makes the NI system think its a new computer and again no issues. I also have had many computers over the years.
    So... From my experience, it would take some serious abuse to trigger anything to happen from the NI side still I do not recommend having more than 3 active installations as it would be double of what's stated in the EULA.

    Whatever system NI uses works perfectly, in Serato Sample for example install can only be in two computers for real and if you get a new one you have to manually disable it in the old ones, if you have no access to the old one you have to ask support to manually do it for you... Every year when I format my computer I have to go thru this process....
     
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  16. Vladimir_MK3

    Vladimir_MK3 New Member

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    Thank you very much for the normal answer! The last thing I would like to clarify: if I took a laptop on a trip and constantly log into the account from one computer, but from different places (cities, countries) are there also no problems? Maybe you have personal experience.
     
  17. D-One

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    No problems at all, I regularly do (well, did before C19) shows all over my country and overseas.
     
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  18. Vladimir_MK3

    Vladimir_MK3 New Member

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    Cool. You explained everything perfectly :thumbsup: Thanks again!