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Still got that never ending spinning ball of death

Discussion in 'MASSIVE + MASSIVE X' started by davemacp, Mar 8, 2020.

  1. davemacp

    davemacp NI Product Owner

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    I don't know if I just havent noticed it due to lack of use for a couple of years, but suddenly komplete kontrol and most NI plugs have become super unresponsive and laggy, massive being one of the worst. I'm getting the browser db spinner every time I open massive. I've already set the mysterious db hit count set to 'none' (what does that even do?), and have tried deleting, re-downloading, and rebuilding to no avail. Anyone got any other ideas?
     

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  2. René must be Unique

    René must be Unique NI Product Owner

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    I have no idea how you could solve this, but it also happens to me when I select a massive preset.

    René
     
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  3. Howl

    Howl NI Product Owner

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    it does it always, when you start massive. it seems a bug.
    but i don't experience any lag, or problems with it. but i am not a massive massive user...

    EDIT: it does it for an minute, give or take or so.
     
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  4. EvilDragon

    EvilDragon Well-Known Member

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    Open Massive standalone and just let it spin until it's over, then close it. Plugin should load much faster then and without the spinner.
     
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  5. The Sarge

    The Sarge NI Product Owner

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    davemacp
    thanks for posting this (again) I´ve that error for years now, also on my total new Win10-PC :(

    EvilDragon
    thanks for this tip again, but as posted a long time ago, this workaround doesn´t work! tried it several times, with different DAW, with Win7-new-installation plus deleting all user-banks (except the ones from NI) and now on new PC with Win10 still the same behavior!
    :mad:
    and yes, it still comes back after stepping through ~50 presets (depend on how long I play with a preset). Owning a much presets from ADSR-Sales, so it´s very annoying to take a break like in the 90s to wait till Massive reacts as it should be...)when finished withe spinning)
     
  6. jacqui brookes

    jacqui brookes NI Product Owner

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    Same but with MassiveX. Mac, Catalina, I have full install of Massive X and library showing in NI, can hear the presets, the -problem is when preset is loaded, via Maschine Mk3 or double clicking, there is just the init tone. Presets show empty in library. Try to delete, or close, spinning ball ..force quit, time and again. Yes, have deleted and reinstalled. Any help guys? Please.
     
  7. The Sarge

    The Sarge NI Product Owner

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    nearly one year over and the annoying problem is still there
    it´s annoying because I LOVE the old (and the new) Massive to use

    maybe the devs could as fast react as with the FM8-directory-bug ;)

    or someone could explain me, how to use Massive in a acceptable way -> when I´m searching a preset and stepping through all of them and more than twice an hour the database likes to rebuild drives me mad :mad:

    EvilDragon
    and yes, I tried your tip dozens times also reinstalling also copy only a few of my bought presets into the user-directory to check out if it will work
    nut unfortunately the result is always the same: the ring of death(better terror) is coming back again and again :confused:
     
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  8. The Sarge

    The Sarge NI Product Owner

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    unfortuntely this tip doesn´t solve the problem
    every time I open Massive, a few seconds later the Spin starts :thumbsdown:

    even the tip I found in the web: "put write-protection on it" doesn´t work, Massive didn´t start to finish cause it says that it´s not abel to do a database (or so)...

    and during I wrote this few words, Massive started spinning again :mad:

    I think I´ll push this now every month in the hope that it´ll be fixed as my showing of the last-directory-gone-bug in FM8 which is fixed since a few months now (although the bug was years old) :thumbsup:
     
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  9. The Sarge

    The Sarge NI Product Owner

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    well, a new hint arrived, but before I try, I wanna ask you about it:
    said to me, that my user-directory is wrong:
    C:\User\[name]\Documents\Native Instruments\Massive\Sounds

    the 3rd-Party-presets should be placed here:
    C:\Program Files\Common Files\Native Instruments\Shared Content\Sounds\Massive


    could someone/you confirm in which directory you have the prestes ?
    thanks in advance
    The Sarge!
     
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  10. René must be Unique

    René must be Unique NI Product Owner

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    I just searched for you.

    For me it is in the following place.

    Presets Massive.PNG

    Where Massive is installed on drive D.

    René
     
  11. The Sarge

    The Sarge NI Product Owner

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    thanks again René must be Unique
    and that´s again a further path :confused: it includes only the factory and those 5 expansions which NI included to Massive a few years ago
    don´t you have any 3rd-Party Presets?

    :eek:
    found me :cool:
    what was the reason for searching me?
     
  12. René must be Unique

    René must be Unique NI Product Owner

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    That should be natural, I've researched it for you. :p

    No I don't have any third party presets. :(

    But the problem also happens with the NI presets.
    Massive search path is,

    C:\User\[name]\Documents\Native Instruments\Massive\Sounds

    But when I go to look there, something is missing.
    That could be the reason that Massive searches every time at startup.

    René
     
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  13. The Sarge

    The Sarge NI Product Owner

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    tried today for a long time ago ABSYNTH 5 ´cause I haven´t checked out the "Absynth Interstellar"-presets from the last update
    beautiful stuff :thumbsup:

    but why posting this in this thread, you ask?
    because something new was inside the update, yey : the "spinning ball of death" is now also included in Absynth5
    fortunately it spins not so often per hour as the (old)Massive´s and is much faster finished with spinning, but why is he here now too?
    :confused:and bit :mad: